Ok thx for the info on the pets. I will give that a go.
So where should those 10 points from general (previously posted build) go then?
Is Grip of Death any good/worth getting?
Pontuz - HoX
Ponthus - Demo
Pondtus - DT
+ plenty of alts like everyone else
So how is this build then?
http://goo.gl/cVOBG
Pontuz - HoX
Ponthus - Demo
Pondtus - DT
+ plenty of alts like everyone else
hmmm, u sure u play necros ppl?
i use general, dont have -hate, but get me ur best tank, ill put -hate, and will take aggro from him...and if ur not pulling aggeo from tanks, than ur necros sucks, which i know they do.
btw, i play with DtS, but pet necros i recon are good 4 raiding/inst and watching TV
have fun, whatever that means
lots of blah blah Vutra and nothing to back it up.
gots to see some numbers if you bring that game to me. otherwise its just blah blah
The main tanks in the guild can hold aggro for a while, but there is a difference if you havnt feated hate-decrease and if you have. A lot of bosses, especially in T4 need tank rotation. Therefor to still be able to do fair amount of dps, and not getting on the top of the aggrolist, hate decrease really helps.
Me and tomhet has been trying a lot of different specs and compaired parses. There isnt much of a difference between our dps, even if one of us have feats in general and the other dont.
Aggro wise there is a difference. The one with no points in hate-decrease gets aggro before the other necro. In T4 you might be able to take one hit without dieing, and if you dont have misdirection you are proberly dead, if the tanks cant save you.
I dont really care that much about numbers anymore. I rather have a smooth raid, than being on the floor. Feating hate-decrease gives smoother raids. Thats my opinion.
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notice corruptors+mutilators are highest on dps by deafult
thing is they hit less times compared to lifestealers or blighted ones
so blighted ones will make bonehoard+spiritual torment+mana/stamina drain more often given they hit more often
now mutilators apply a physical damage dot wich stacks to 10 wich gives very nice extra damge proc for necros,
using 6 is usualy enough to have that dot at 10 if they are hitting all the time.
keep in mind mutilations dot doesnt get reaplied by diferent sources so if one necro is already using them best use corruptors
deathlord aka general of the dead hits pretty hard while it lasts and ive seen him critting for 1000
corruptors will only compete with mutilators if you spec in reanimation "grim corruption"
also you need to be aware range of reach of pets blight ones and mutilators are realy short range so if your playing in a raid with more then 2 necros most wont reach boss for those type of pets only 16-18 will be able to reach boss
corroptors have higher reach so they will be able to reach boss easier
one trick to that is netherworld deception it shrinks pets so a lot of pets with short range can be fit to hit boss using that, with necro wich already has all pets in having to use it to make them midgets so other necros can reach target, its pretty much only use of that spell given it has no affect in hate in raids from my testing over the years
main thing about melee pets is they add more noticeable extra damage via mutilations dot or corruptors unholy proc
using them will benefit your dps a lot especialy with barb procs+conq crit buffs+absurdly good tos buffs, all physical buffs in group will buff up your pets so you will deal more consistent damage in raids.
also you can allow realy high burst damage for holy cleansing poms and tos using improved storm nimbus(keep hearing about these tos one shooting raid bosses with necro+pets stacking reaching 800crit damage)
i have no issues running specs without general tree in pve when i play with guilds full t4 tanks :P
i usualy go with nightfall/general dts builds when playing with randoms saves me from dieing a lot :P
like a couple weeks ago did a random late night w3 with pusjo maintanking and managed to do around 2k dps in leviathus without dieing :P
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/9882/levik.jpg
so i guess that means the spec i linked with rotl+toe is win for doing random pugs
i also use it first 3 bosses in t4 and entity works quite nicely
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