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    Default Priority list

    Often you hear someone saying: focuss the *insert class* first and when reading forums all the pro players here seem to know exactly whom to focus first without the need of discussion but often I realize that I disagree with that priority focus so I want to start this discussion.
    Of course target priority not only depends on the class but also on skill of that player or the position of a player or the hp bar etc. These circumstances I call situational and I want to ignore such situational circumstances for my target priority list. Of course I attack a guardian if he only has 300hp remaining but usually a guardian is not number 1 on my priority list.
    Then we have something I would like to call a egocentric priority list. It is more likely that a demo or necro will say focuss that assassin first while soldiers might have other priorities.
    Let us try to stay neutral, assume we play a not existing 'generic class' with average values so our egocentric point of view will hopefully vanish. Let us assume all our opponents are on equal player skill and equal aa and gear, no matter what class they are playing.

    I do not only want to list the 12 classes but I also want to introduce 3 seperating lines to showcase a gap between groups of classes. So all in all we spread our 12 classes over 15 positions where 3 positions are seperating lines. To make it more clear I will start with 5 classes which I consider no brainers but it might be possible that a lot of you will already disagree with me so they are not carved in stone.

    For me the first class to focuss is always hox. Here his skills/gear whatever do not really matter to me. If a hox is nearby I focuss the hox. Reason for this is his high aoe dmg and his aoe cc's. You can never leave a hox alone and give him time to do what he wants to do. A hox must always be under pressure. The only reason not to attack a hox first is if he is too far away.
    Number 2 is the tos for similar reasons but here player skill and situational circumstances way more often play a role compared to hox. I see way too many tosses that play tos like a crippled demo from range. Nevertheless tos is rank 2 for me.
    After hox and tos comes my first separating line to showcase how important I consider it to focuss hox and tos first. There is a gap between hox and tos on position 1 and 2 and the next class to focus after hox/tos.

    On the other end of the list are 2 classes which I usually do not focuss at all. First comes guardian. Highest mitigation of all classes, lowest dmg of all classes. By no means this means all guardians are harmless but you get the idea, I hope. Next comes conq. Conq is the class with 2nd highest mitigation but (a lot) more dmg than guardian. On top of that conq can debuff. If I would introduce a fourth seperating line than that line would be between guardian and conq. After guardian and conq comes my second separating line, before dark templar, the third soldier class. Dt has good mitigation but is not on same level with conq and guardian despite his mana shield and his health and mana tap abilities. I loved to play dt on eu server but since server moved to usa my skill is not sufficient to win against really good players because of latency. Dt still is number one noob killer and you can still get a positive kd out of a dt easily but when facing good opponents it's hard to get decent vom stacks. Too much frustration for me when you know it's all because of lag.

    So here we start with the first 5 classes and the first 2 separating lines. As I have said this are 'no brainers' for me and almost carved into stone for me but I am still willing to hear your arguments if you think I am wrong.

    1. hox
    2. tos
    3. ------
    12. dt
    13. ------
    14. conq
    15. guardian

    So this are the first 7 positions out of 15. The remaining 8 positions are harder for me to fill. Nevertheless I want to give you a full first list to start the discussion. I'll start with position 11, one place before dt. Here I see the ranger and that with a very bad feeling. I soo much want to be ranger higher on the priority list because I hate this class so much. I often break my own priority list and focus a ranger before other classes just because of hatred but I want to be reasonable and neutral in this thread and so I have to admit a.) ranger might have excellent burst dmg to get cheesy kill credits but his dmg over time is pretty bad, only better than guardian and bs, and b.) ranger has way too many tools to not get killed easily. Often even the most unskilled ranger gets away just by using some traps and running away in a straight line towards his own team where he gets support. Too often chasing a ranger is a waste of time.
    Place 10 is bs. Only class that is doing less dmg is guardian and bs has some decent tools to stay alive longer than most other classes. Not as good as soldiers or ranger but good enough.
    Place 9 is pom. Pom does more dmg than bs and can support others way better with his cc's than bs can do.
    place 8 is a separating line between 'utility' classes and dmg classes.
    place 7 is barb, 6 is sin, 5 is necro and 4 is demo. This four classes gave me the biggest problem to find an order because it is almost always situational.

    so this is my priority list:

    1. hox
    2. tos
    3. --------
    4. demo
    5. necro
    6. assassin
    7. barb
    8. --------
    9. pom
    10. bs
    11. ranger
    12. dt
    13. --------
    14. conq
    15. guardian

    So what do you think? Where am I wrong and why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheya View Post
    So what do you think? Where am I wrong and why?
    Well it depends on many things, is the dt out of mana, didnt the conq use his bubbles etc.

    But most importantly the class focus goes out the window if enemy team has a good barb and a bullsht hox for example.

    It also depends heavliy on what class you play, if iam on necro sin is last on my targets for obvious reasons.
    Last edited by Mogsters; 29th December 2016 at 16:59.

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    I just focus Ed in minigames, regardless what class he's playing, I advise others to do the same
    mechanno says no

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    thx for your reply but I think you just looked at my list without reading the text. I spoke about situational circumstances, about egocentric priorities and I assumed all players are on equal skill, gear, aa level.

    When it comes to your example of good barb vs '********' hox I still would focus that hox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peeka View Post
    I just focus Ed in minigames, regardless what class he's playing, I advise others to do the same
    Same, I also tell my teammates to do It aswell.

    And I agree with u weheya, hox and tos should always be first priority.
    But most people dont think about what is best for their team, they only care about what has the most potential to ruin their KD.
    Last edited by Tyyr; 29th December 2016 at 19:39.
    Raised in Kheshatta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peeka View Post
    I just focus Ed in minigames, regardless what class he's playing, I advise others to do the same
    i love you too Mechanno. Bonne anne Gros lard !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyyr View Post
    And I agree with u weheya, hox and tos should always be first priority.
    That explains a lot. I better try to get Ed on my team at all times.
    Rathothis|Tempest of Set || Tigrathes|Dark Templar || Isitnofret|Herald of Xotli
    Sudatorius|Noob barb on Rage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rathothis View Post
    That explains a lot. I better try to get Ed on my team at all times.
    ED dies from splash damage, this make no sense.

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    Focus Frakishox say no more
    Nojoda pvp 10 Barb
    Pooba pvp 10 Pom
    Elosso pvp 10 BS
    Kotech pvp 10 DT
    Deeky pvp 8 Necro
    Beefstikk pvp 10 Guard
    Beefchief pvp 10 Conq
    Denoid pvp 8 Ranger
    Mousecop pvp 9 Hox

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    My priority is very simple. I always focus the first tank I see. Its like a rule since i play on Crom. No matter the player no matter the group. ALWAYS FOCUS THE TANK. Your team gets extra hero mode credits if there is a healer behind the tank or a mage spellwaving in the back. NEVER break that rule, the tank IS the enemy. Right now i m organising a premade team to join minigames, we are called the LEMMINGS!!. You rolled a tank, now you ll pay!!!

    Lemmings kill order is

    1. Conq (2 bubbles, extra credits)
    2. Guard (1 bubble + movement multiplier, extra credits but not as many as conq)
    3. Dt (Only if there is no conq or guard)
    4. Pom (2 bubbles giving 30sec immunity, the player that suicides from retributive dmg has always a place in my team)

    All other classes are on ignore mode. As if we play well none of the above has died and we are back on rezpad to start from zero. In case that didnt happen probably lemmings have inflitrated the enemy team and our tank as getting focused
    Last edited by Vasylyos; 30th December 2016 at 08:35.

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