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    Its kinda sad if they're just a flat amount of hate, then gear has no effect on your abilities

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tumulten View Post
    Its kinda sad if they're just a flat amount of hate, then gear has no effect on your abilities
    that is actually a very good measure allowing lowered geared tanks to maybe catch up with better geared in aggro swapping and ofc for not makin lazy tanks depending mainly on hate abilities if they have uber gear/buffs
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    Quote Originally Posted by sardanapal View Post
    that is actually a very good measure allowing lowered geared tanks to maybe catch up with better geared in aggro swapping and ofc for not makin lazy tanks depending mainly on hate abilities if they have uber gear/buffs
    What about DTs who don't rely on abilities to generate hate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fass View Post
    What about DTs who don't rely on abilities to generate hate?
    lowered geared dts can mess up with magic dmg and still be useful offtanking ...there is always a solution fass,i thought you were discussing about the guardian though...you know the second best tank in AoC
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    Quote Originally Posted by sardanapal View Post
    that is actually a very good measure allowing lowered geared tanks to maybe catch up with better geared in aggro swapping and ofc for not makin lazy tanks depending mainly on hate abilities if they have uber gear/buffs
    How would they catch up if its the same amount? and this is pretty much only valid for guardians

    if youre doing 400 dps and hate increase dosnt benefit your taunts at all then the amount you get from hate increase is so tiny its not even worth anything
    Last edited by Tumulten; 3rd December 2016 at 18:04.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tumulten View Post
    How would they catch up if its the same amount? and this is pretty much only valid for guardians

    if youre doing 400 dps and hate increase dosnt benefit your taunts at all then the amount you get from hate increase is so tiny its not even worth anything
    - 400 dps from guardians is so 2014 and back
    - same amount of hate generated from aggro tools regardless of gear checks doesnt give another benefit to a better geared guardian compared to a less geared one, so if correct use from shields and good timing of hate burst and you can see a less geared guardian in aggro rotation.Actually the guardian tank class is the only tank class that this can happen more easily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sardanapal View Post
    - 400 dps from guardians is so 2014 and back
    - same amount of hate generated from aggro tools regardless of gear checks doesnt give another benefit to a better geared guardian compared to a less geared one, so if correct use from shields and good timing of hate burst and you can see a less geared guardian in aggro rotation.Actually the guardian tank class is the only tank class that this can happen more easily.
    I dunno where this conversation is heading but I do agree that a Better Guard can outshine another Guard regardless of gear, unlike the DT where mostly gear matter and anything goes rotationwise :P RNG ftw (taking it abit to the extremes but still).
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    Quote Originally Posted by sardanapal View Post
    - 400 dps from guardians is so 2014 and back
    - same amount of hate generated from aggro tools regardless of gear checks doesnt give another benefit to a better geared guardian compared to a less geared one, so if correct use from shields and good timing of hate burst and you can see a less geared guardian in aggro rotation.Actually the guardian tank class is the only tank class that this can happen more easily.
    400 dps was what i read earlier in this thread

    but it would be better to spec anything that increases your dps a littel bit than stuff that gives you +%hate then

    and i think pretty much anyone can outshine someone else with better gear if they play better than them, unless ofc we are talking about someone with completely crap gear.

    And i trough we where talking about experienced players
    Last edited by Tumulten; 3rd December 2016 at 21:41.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magnum92 View Post
    I dunno where this conversation is heading but I do agree that a Better Guard can outshine another Guard regardless of gear, unlike the DT where mostly gear matter and anything goes rotationwise :P RNG ftw (taking it abit to the extremes but still).
    Anything goes is why 95% of the Dts suck.Then again 95% of current dpsers in the game cannot dps more than the dt in defensive and rogues specc down to distraction because "low agro speccs" so it all falls together !

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Shink- View Post
    Anything goes is why 95% of the Dts suck.Then again 95% of current dpsers in the game cannot dps more than the dt in defensive
    Which only means that 95% of current DPSers suck, which in turn means that 95% of tanks can be quite successful sucking, if you get a pesky 5%er that doesn't suck, just tell that person to start sucking and you're all good to revel in your mediocrity (this approach was implemented by many a raid leader in the past too).
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