can't decide between necro and demo

[Sarhal]

Personelly I wouldnt use Stealth build, and will use like 10 feats other spec, but in general it have a point and usabillity, same goes about feating MotD for full, this again depends alot on playstyle, not must thing. His spec is decent for pvp, he use Night of Harvester to get rid of mana cost on lifestrike, so turning it to pure mana gain spell. Same goes to Unholy Hands, tool which being used in special situations, but still have its own utility. Ofc no1 spamming it. Necro fear is very good, especially as SW lifesaver vs melees, no matter of easiness of avoiding it.

And I dunno why u referring this spec to Fass or Torillius, any decent pvp necro using somehow alike of this, since there is no other choice for being effective.

Actually ur comment states who u fighting alot. :>

Well this sayss its all,

necro vs demo demo wins hands down

Demo omfg op, necro omfg gimp ^^ No wonder :>



Special Hi from bad spell to Noite,

[19:50] Your Unholy Hands crits Wazira for 1425 unholy damage.
[19:50] Your Unholy Hands hits Wazira for 778 unholy damage.
[19:50] Your Unholy Hands crits Wazira for 1476 unholy damage.
[19:50] Your Unholy Hands crits Wazira for 1441 unholy damage.
[19:50] Wazira died.


[19:50] Your Unholy Hands crits Wazira for 1604 unholy damage.
[19:50] Your Unholy Hands hits Wazira for 904 unholy damage.
[19:50] Your Unholy Hands crits Wazira for 1566 unholy damage.
[19:50] Your Unholy Hands hits Wazira for 919 unholy damage.
[19:50] Your Unholy Hands hits Wazira for 928 unholy damage.
[19:50] Your Unholy Hands hits Wazira for 928 unholy damage.
[19:50] Wazira died.

[-tomhet-]

Personelly I wouldnt use Stealth build, and will use like 10 feats other spec, but in general it have a point and usabillity, same goes about feating MotD for full, this again depends alot on playstyle, not must thing. His spec is decent for pvp, he use Night of Harvester to get rid of mana cost on lifestrike, so turning it to pure mana gain spell. Same goes to Unholy Hands, tool which being used in special situations, but still have its own utility. Ofc no1 spamming it. Necro fear is very good, especially as SW lifesaver vs melees, no matter of easiness of avoiding it.

And I dunno why u referring this spec to Fass or Torillius, any decent pvp necro using somehow alike of this, since there is no other choice for being effective.

Actually ur comment states who u fighting alot. :>

Well this sayss its all,



Demo omfg op, necro omfg gimp ^^ No wonder :>

all you state just confirms what torilius said fury doesnt have more skilled pvp players then crom.

and yeah on crom people can dodge necro fear.

your claims are as bad as saying supreme lich is best for pve dps and using swarm is good for dps.

there are more choises to be efective using reapers or blood arcanists.

seems no good demos on fury then seeing you be so blunt about it

[-tomhet-]

Special Hi from bad spell to Noite,

[19:50] Your Unholy Hands crits Wazira for 1425 unholy damage.
[19:50] Your Unholy Hands hits Wazira for 778 unholy damage.
[19:50] Your Unholy Hands crits Wazira for 1476 unholy damage.
[19:50] Your Unholy Hands crits Wazira for 1441 unholy damage.
[19:50] Wazira died.


[19:50] Your Unholy Hands crits Wazira for 1604 unholy damage.
[19:50] Your Unholy Hands hits Wazira for 904 unholy damage.
[19:50] Your Unholy Hands crits Wazira for 1566 unholy damage.
[19:50] Your Unholy Hands hits Wazira for 919 unholy damage.
[19:50] Your Unholy Hands hits Wazira for 928 unholy damage.
[19:50] Your Unholy Hands hits Wazira for 928 unholy damage.
[19:50] Wazira died.

you missed the part that it breaks with a single white hit, and that those numbers only happen on a full t4 necro using potions and on a victim not using pvp gear.

[Sarhal]

As u can see from combat log, unfortunately it didnt break and even killed him.

all you state just confirms what torilius said fury doesnt have more skilled pvp players then crom.

your claims are as bad as saying supreme lich is best for pve dps and using swarm is good for dps.

there are more choises to be efective using reapers or blood arcanists.

seems no good demos on fury then seeing you be so blunt about it

Could say same about u and ur thoughts, by saying that lich is bad for dps and plague is bad for dps u proves that alot for me :>

And yeah we dont have any good pvpers anymore after Trevas left Fury qq.

But who knows maybe some day we will be blessed to see some good demo after all! Should ask Torilius about it, seems only he knows :>

[EmSi86]

... you must have forgot about few demo spells that utility and tremondous one shoot capability in mini games was not even pointed by all of you, im talking about let them burn (maybe not one shoot but certainly good to get frag on medium pvp armor through whole duration and even with pvp gear ...) and tah dah > unleash the underworld - spell that crit for 6-7k on khitai geared demos ... also when having that high crit Chance its super easy to get buff - last 30 sec to half its casting time - its like super hiper gozu aoe - so im just pointing that demo still have gozu capabilities to totally destroy via range on heaten up meeles

[Vatoi]

You are right in some ways... I'm playing on 59 lvl minis atm ,yesterday i had 25 kills and 2 deaths ,(without farming res). I'm using build like this :
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Always 1pet with me ,it is corruption one ,because he deal also unholy damage, and with 1 pet i can use fear also... In fights 1on1 against demo i must say its depend on luck ,sometimes I win ,sometimes Demo ,but in mini games ,necromancer is eating demo all the time ,cause of long dots + SW ,I enjoyed killing rangers

[Mogsters]

lowbie minis are so shitty quality u really cant tell anything from that

[Chaman-bourru]

all you state just confirms what torilius said fury doesnt have more skilled pvp players then crom.

and yeah on crom people can dodge necro fear.

The point is not necessairly to fear the guy. Example:
If you are in SW, a guy comes behind you, three possibilities.
1/ He gets feared.
2/ He uses anti-CC.
3/ He runs out of the fear.

All three have positive aspects. If you run out of the fear, it still gives the Necro 2/3 extra seconds that might be enough to get down from SW. If you use anti-CC, then you don't have it for later. If you're feared... well your feared...

Out of SW situation same thing. If you run towards a necro, he starts casting fear. You move out, he cancels it, he maintains distance. You use anti-CC too early, he cancels it and you don't have it anymore for later. You don't have to actually fear the guy to make the CC effective.

[Sarhal]

You don't have to actually fear the guy to make the CC effective.

This,

But Cromians ppl ofc knows better :>

lowbie minis are so shitty quality u really cant tell anything from that

tbh your statement could be referred to 90% of current pugs on 80 as well ;/

[Mathieulombardi]

Sometimes it's helpful not to dodge a fear, etc. Maybe they don't dodge because they're super cereal and even more pro COMONN