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Thread: Joel Bylos Interview 4/25/13

  1. #141

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    Quote Originally Posted by darknessjw View Post
    That is PvE player type mindset. Progression is bad for pvp
    Couldn't agree more
    Quote Originally Posted by Nusquam View Post
    You either like the game or you don't. If you are hanging around because you feel like I am stringing you along with false promises, don't.

  2. #142

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenic View Post
    Couldn't agree more
    x 10. I love PVP, heck my fav. games ever are street fighter/tekken/MK etc.

    Take away progression and I won't login as half as much. Sometimes I feel like "fighting for the sake of fighting" - well at least not all the time. :P

    Think of it like an arcade time sink. Noone would want to play while I was on the Tekken Tag machine, and when they saw me walking in it was like a red carpet rollout- its the same with gear in this game (except Bori isn't quite what it use to be- or helps).

    Same goes for unlocking costumes in any other online PVP game. Its the thing.

    So although I agree that it is a PVE mindset per se, it kinda isnt.
    Last edited by K4NO; 26th April 2013 at 14:32.

  3. #143

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    Quote Originally Posted by K4NO View Post
    x 10. I love PVP, heck my fav. games ever are street fighter/tekken/MK etc.

    Take away progression and I won't login as half as much. Sometimes I feel like "fighting for the sake of fighting" - well at least not all the time. :P

    Think of it like an arcade time sink. Noone would want to play while I was on the Tekken Tag machine, and when they saw me walking in it was like a red carpet rollout- its the same with gear in this game (except Bori isn't quite what it use to be- or helps).
    I play a lot of moba games, the only thing I have to play for is the satisfaction of winning and getting better stats. I wish AoC had more public stats (not just kd).

  4. #144

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    Crush your enemies, see them driven before you and read the lamentation on the forums. Oh...and give me tokens to buy armour

    Rankings, prestige, cosmetics, titles etc. Those should be the rewards and the progression for PVP. Not a power advantage over other players. Your power advantage should come from your ability to play the game, not the amount of time you spent getting tokens.

    Unchained with full AA unlocked for all players (at least, that's how it sounded to me) and gear equalized will mean that all these "veteran" PVPers will be on a level playing field. It eliminates one of the biggest QQ excuses from PVP and will show who is really the best. If you are a veteran, you should still come out on top because of how good you are, right? Hopefully, Joel can oversee the implementation of some sort of PVP ranking and stats system, which would give PVP bragging rights.

    What's the point of grinding up all this powerful gear and beating on weak noobs? It just makes them quit. You can't PVP vs yourself...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karadok View Post
    Crafting mechanics are fine as they are now imo.

    Just add some new recipes for stuff that is on par with khitai gear (add heal rating and critigation rating) and make the most common recipes more accessible to the masses, i.e. sell them from vendors or raise the drop chance dramatically and you´re done.

    No reason to overhaul the whole system.
    Aside from yourself, who wants the current crafting system? It's weird, 'simple', and just doesn't work ultimately because it's pwned by extremly easily obtained gear from other area's (Khitai....you can enter Warmonks and KP at 16) compared to the complexity of obtaining materials for even the most basic of gear.

    Edit: Removed my epic rant.
    Last edited by stiiixy; 26th April 2013 at 14:41.

  6. #146

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thutkemi View Post
    Crush your enemies, see them driven before you and read the lamentation on the forums. Oh...and give me tokens to buy armour

    Rankings, prestige, cosmetics, titles etc. Those should be the rewards and the progression for PVP. Not a power advantage over other players. Your power advantage should come from your ability to play the game, not the amount of time you spent getting tokens.

    Unchained with full AA unlocked for all players (at least, that's how it sounded to me) and gear equalized will mean that all these "veteran" PVPers will be on a level playing field. It eliminates one of the biggest QQ excuses from PVP and will show who is really the best. If you are a veteran, you should still come out on top because of how good you are, right? Hopefully, Joel can oversee the implementation of some sort of PVP ranking and stats system, which would give PVP bragging rights.

    What's the point of grinding up all this powerful gear and beating on weak noobs? It just makes them quit. You can't PVP vs yourself...
    Ace post! All things considered equal, some classes will certainly benefit. Can't wait!!!

    (just please give me some stuff to show off still :P)

  7. #147

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    Hilarious!! Hey listen Bori PvP 10 pver's if you DON'T WANT to go into unchained PvP then JUST CLICK NORMAL PvP. .....END OF DISCUSSION.

    You see what I really think you Bori people are whining about is "oh no!! all the green geared farmable mobs are gonna go away to unchained , OMG WHO AM I GONNA FARM?!"

    But don't worry real pvpers are concerned about gear and "progression".. so unchained will never get popular so we'll all flock in our green gear to be farmed by you Bori people in the end anyway!!
    Last edited by RingOfSet; 26th April 2013 at 14:36.

  8. #148

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    Quote Originally Posted by RingOfSet View Post
    Hilarious!! Hey listen Bori PvP 10 pver's if you DON'T WANT to go into unchained PvP then JUST CLICK NORMAL PvP. .....END OF DISCUSSION.

    You see what I really think you Bori people are whining about is "oh no!! all the green geared farmable mobs are gonna go away to unchained , OMG WHO AM I GONNA FARM?!"

    But don't worry real pvpers are concerned about gear and "progression".. so unchained will never get popular so we'll all flock in our green gear to be farmed by you Boris people in the end anyway!!
    But if you saw me on my PVP 10 you most likely would assume the above, until we touched hands.

    In any case I love PVP in this game, its what motivates me to play, and having no "trophies" to boast about is unsettling for a personality as such as myself :P

  9. #149

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    Also, is Joel ex-pat Aussie? I recall hearing an Aussie on the Khitai Dev team, too.

  10. #150

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    I am not sure if you love the game, rather you love the glitter or the pretentious celebrity status that is maintained achieved by beating down powerless opponents (i.e. new comers).

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