What does it take to get veterans to return to the game?

[Texan615]

What bothers me is the fact that the average Joe has very little chance to experience all the "new" - well its not new anymore - but... and cool content like Temple of Elric, Lurker raid etc. I wont even mention new T5 unchained and T6 raids which will be reserved to few elite hardcore raiding guilds...and that really sucks big time.

Once T5 is out, Funcom should look into ways to nerf T4, and T3.5 so that people will finally get out off the T3 treadmill and raid something different.

[Caudilloo]

Once T5 is out, Funcom should look into ways to nerf T4, and T3.5 so that people will finally get out off the T3 treadmill and raid something different.

I agree with nerfing something for once.

Once T5 comes out veteran interest in T4 will drop hard. I know in my guild all T4 has been replaced by T5 on Testlive already since everyone is so bored with gearing up their 3/4/5th alt in T4. When T5 comes out T4 ideally would be nerfed to the level T3 is currently.
For pugs this has proven a good challenge: not so hard they have no chance of beating it but just hard enough so it is still possible to wipe. Some encounters (read Zodiac) may need a bigger nerf. Something like removing dots from 6man puzzles and increasing timer, or maybe downsizing 12man puzzles to 6man and 6man puzzles to 3man in order to make it doable with a smaller amount of good raiders.

If T4 stays like it is now after the release of T5, the raidingguilds will move on from it and the big public won't go there.

[Yawgmoth-VDN]

I agree with nerfing something for once.

Once T5 comes out veteran interest in T4 will drop hard. I know in my guild all T4 has been replaced by T5 on Testlive already since everyone is so bored with gearing up their 3/4/5th alt in T4. When T5 comes out T4 ideally would be nerfed to the level T3 is currently.

same in my guild... moreover, except for sheng and emperor, the rest of the encounters are just boring, so a nerf would not hurt at all!!

[LunaticAsylumLA]

Once T5 is out, Funcom should look into ways to nerf T4, and T3.5 so that people will finally get out off the T3 treadmill and raid something different.

Once T5 is out, it would be logical to increase difficulty in T1, T2, and T3 (as people will get better gear), and leave T3.5 intact. T4 needs some bosses replaced (Imp, Basilisk, Memory Cloud).

[Rathothis]

Once T5 is out, it would be logical to increase difficulty in T1, T2, and T3 (as people will get better gear), and leave T3.5 intact. T4 needs some bosses replaced (Imp, Basilisk, Memory Cloud).

Alan's logic never fails to amuse

And yes, content below endgame raids (then T5) should be puggable with some effort. So some nerfs to T4 would be wholly justified.

[Oduda]

before grinding world bosses for pink pixels.

They drop pink pixels now? Shinny!

[CimmerianHoX]

Once T5 is out, it would be logical to increase difficulty in T1, T2, and T3 (as people will get better gear), and leave T3.5 intact. T4 needs some bosses replaced (Imp, Basilisk, Memory Cloud).

Yes...death to fresh 80 PUGS! >:/

Seriously though, I want to get in on some of those cool all-HoX yakhmar raids that used to happen.

[Unutterable]

Yes...death to fresh 80 PUGS! >:/

Seriously though, I want to get in on some of those cool all-HoX yakhmar raids that used to happen.

Those fresh 80 pugs made their choice to not be 80 at launch, so it's their own fault that they don't have the gear and aas to do endmode content.