Proposed class changes on TL. Interesting. (DT's be raging - guess why? lol)

[Erock25]

=Shiwan;2088468

And what concerns PvE side aren´t there complaints the game is already too easy? Conqs have it even dumbed to oblivion PvE wise at least what I noticed...

At least what you noticed? Does that mean you are making comments on something you have no experience with?

Brute PVE is just as skill based as guards and more skill based than DTs. Brute conq pve has no reason to be nerfed.

[Bibik]

Brute PVE is just as skill based as guards and more skill based than DTs. Brute conq pve has no reason to be nerfed.

I'm don't agree at all, it is as dumbed down as DT/jugg guard, no skill involved at all. At least, with the pre-revamp conq you were able to make a difference between a bad, and a good conq.

[lmagowz]

I hope that will be just first revamp and they fix something else. But most of such problems was already discussed on forums many times

[Shiwan]

Cirith could make balance/tweakings once upon few months and once we got poolished game

[bogus]

Brute PVE is just as skill based as guards and more skill based than DTs. Brute conq pve has no reason to be nerfed.

If by skillbased you mean t2 geared toon with t3 smalls and 2h that was not played as brute ever goes right after revamp to Monastery for first time (creating build while riding horse) and solo tank all thre bosses with holding aggro against 1.8k dps sin, then yes it needs pure unbelievable skills.

[Drachenfier]

Pretty much every thing i've read about DT (almost unanimous agreement across multiple threads and multiple forums) is that the class was pretty sub par prior to the introduction of VoM.

[Shax84]

If by skillbased you mean t2 geared toon with t3 smalls and 2h that was not played as brute ever goes right after revamp to Monastery for first time (creating build while riding horse) and solo tank all thre bosses with holding aggro against 1.8k dps sin, then yes it needs pure unbelievable skills.

But, there is a lot of crappy Conquerors out there still. There are other Conquerors in K6 groups that cant get agro off mine even when I am not using BoA, Retaliation, Technique of Mettle, etc..

[Erock25]

If by skillbased you mean t2 geared toon with t3 smalls and 2h that was not played as brute ever goes right after revamp to Monastery for first time (creating build while riding horse) and solo tank all thre bosses with holding aggro against 1.8k dps sin, then yes it needs pure unbelievable skills.

And this is not possible with guard/dt? What is your point besides, 'hey everybody, come see how good I am!'

The manual dexterity and timing your ability usage on a brute conq is in no way easier than either of the other tanks.

[bogus]

And this is not possible with guard/dt?

With DT ofc it is. If you have vom and some crit gear. But I'd did not expect from guard doing such stuff if you have never tanked with this class.

[Naerri]

But I'd did not expect from guard doing such stuff if you have never tanked with this class.

But thats not the case here with your conq either, now is it? ...you obviously have tanked T2/3 before revamp and you are exp veteran. The tank mechanics havent changed much, they just got a boost. So your cool Monastery story is really not that relevant.