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Thread: 1-12 Order of class burst PVP

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    Default 1-12 Order of class burst PVP

    A lot of ppl have done 1-10 scale pvp measures for class power, most hated class and most noob class but I have not yet seen one for class with most burst.

    I will start.

    1. conq
    2. sin
    3. demo (wave of flames perk)
    4. BS (crazy damage)
    5. ranger
    6. Dt (with avg vom stack seen in pvp)
    7. tos (with totem)
    8. pom
    9. hox
    10. guard
    11. necro (but they are the 1st or 2nd most op class)
    barb (unrated due to bias)


    REMEMBER: this has NOTHING to do with the OP'ness of the class, I just want to see ppl's opinions of class burst
    Last edited by throughthedoor; 11th November 2013 at 04:23.
    Too easy, think your good? Try a reaver stance barb.

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    1. Ranger
    2. Conq brute - ubalanced surv/dmg ratio and too easy debuffs stacking.
    3. Pom - unbalanced surv/dmg ratio.
    4. Demo - insta cc and noob friendly WoF
    5. Necro - noob ftw dot and kill leeching.
    6. Sin
    Rest classes are fine imho

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    Quote Originally Posted by throughthedoor View Post
    A lot of ppl have done 1-10 scale pvp measures for class power, most hated class and most noob class but I have not yet seen one for class with most burst.

    I will start.

    1. conq
    2. sin
    3. demo (wave of flames perk)
    4. BS (crazy damage)
    5. ranger
    6. Dt (with avg vom stack seen in pvp)
    7. tos (with totem)
    8. pom
    9. hox
    10. guard
    11. necro (but they are the 1st or 2nd most op class)
    barb (unrated due to bias)


    REMEMBER: this has NOTHING to do with the OP'ness of the class, I just want to see ppl's opinions of class burst
    sorry, but if you place necro on rank 11, you clearly don´t have any idea..
    aka Morte.. Morce.. Morte.. Morce again.. bah, whatever..

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    I thought it was about "burst" damage?
    There is also the difference between "damage done in the first seconds" (where assasin and demo and ranger would be good) or "sudden death damage once certain things have been done" (where pom and necro would be good).
    Also you really can't count retaliation abilities for full here.

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    Burst damage is damage done in three seconds window. All classes except guardian can do 8-12k three second burst vs a debuffed PvE single target, and BS relies on having IB running and then doing a SB crit to be able to hit the mark..

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    8-12k 3second burst ALL classes LOL



    Back to topic.

    1: Sin/ranger/demo

    2: Pom/hox

    3: necro/tos/barb

    4: Bear/DT/Conq/guard


    This lines them up as most of these classes are really equal or same.

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    sin and demo have the most frequent burst imo, all i would like to mention

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaart View Post
    8-12k 3second burst ALL classes LOL
    If you cant do that vs a debuffed mob, you need to l2p, or spec out of your full general build.

    Also kind of depends whether you mean from idle to 12k dmg during 3 seconds, no class can do that.

    Tos with idol, sf, nebthu, crown, and sparks would hit high burst without doubt.

    Barb with BS dot plus buffed WA4 does 10k easy.

    Necro with CB and WB and PB detonation is also around 10k.

    DT with Shadowed Soul, Hex, ASfoF is not a "reliable" burst however most times in proper gear and the vom procs running you'll hit for 8k+

    Conq with BB + RF, WW, OLP...

    Bear with Rampage, RoA, MoS, Bleed and a critting SB.

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    tbh, who care burst in pve mob,

    1.pom/conq
    2ranger/sin
    3.... too lazy write rest of them

    oh and this was about pvp
    The Law

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaart View Post
    This is a pvp thread in the pvp discussion section you downie.

    If you're basing your experience on Mobs... Debuffed mobs.. you have zero credibility here. Go to the pve section.
    Proves the intelligence of some of the PvP players. How is burst dmg different in PvP from PvE? Is three seconds shorter duration in PvP? Combos or skills named differently? Wracks, Torments and Ruins applied differently? To measure damage you need a fixed mitigation so comparison is viable at all. You won't find fixed mitigation in PvP. Damage will scale with mitigation no matter what and the highest single target burst on straw man will also be highest single target burst in PvP.
    Last edited by Zoeri; 11th November 2013 at 09:42.

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