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  1. #31

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sbyvoj View Post
    Greetings to all members of the BS Club.

    I was gone a long time and I have a question. Is this build useful?

    http://goo.gl/8J2Ws5

    - pvp T2+T3 items (tiger's belt, T2 pve 2HB)

    or better is

    http://goo.gl/zlCLIs ?

    - both for PvP

    - for standart PvE (no T4 spec. builds)
    http://goo.gl/dmMQTb ?

    - server Crom (Fury = muti in pvp
    For PvP minigames I'd go Muti, and I suggest you to put 2 points in Winter's Bite.
    Especially after merge it's hard to play vs americans, who have extremely low ping, unless you are lucky enough to have good ping even in Europe.
    Unfortunately I'm not lucky, my ping now is near 200ms and that snare helps a lot in minigames (duels are anyway almost unplayable..).

    PvE build is ok but I would completely skip Ether Theft.
    If you really have mana problems, consider moving 3 points from Brutal Walker to Ursin Spirit.
    Ether Theft is very meh combo, especially non fully feated.


    Oh and wellcome back!
    Looking for you in minigames
    Retired nab.. once it was Korando (PvP 10 BS), Andromaeda (PvP 10 Sin), Calore (PvP 10 Demo) and minions...

  2. #32

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    You shouldn't pass out on Balance of nature - max it, it gives constant very nearly unlimited energy to your entire group. Most underrated BS feat ever (also helps casters SW-ing). Endurance of the bear on the other hand is very meh. Tiny impact and not worth feating at all over Balance of nature.

    Unless you use a muti spec - then just go for max dps it's a selfish spec anyway.

    And forget Ether Theft, it sucks really. Too long CD.
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  3. #33

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    Thank you for answer.

    But I have a little bit probem. When I was on Fury =>

    http://goo.gl/MPAUg3

    On Crom is more big concentration ppl with T4 gear than on Fury => muti build don't have chance (I prefered first line very close to flager)

    I try classic => http://goo.gl/uleJXC
    Or very very old crazy build http://goo.gl/DQPtDP

  4. #34

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sbyvoj View Post
    Thank you for answer.

    But I have a little bit probem. When I was on Fury =>

    http://goo.gl/MPAUg3

    On Crom is more big concentration ppl with T4 gear than on Fury => muti build don't have chance (I prefered first line very close to flager)

    I try classic => http://goo.gl/uleJXC
    Or very very old crazy build http://goo.gl/DQPtDP
    I don't really have problems in running Muti on Crom, you just have to get used it.
    6 seconds bubble in the end helps your survivability only marginally.
    With good positioning and movement we can survive most of the situations with Muti build.
    IH can save one death in few residual situations, but is not really a life saver.
    Also Muti build can be very supportive too: more DPS is very useful to clear clothies around, and Bewilder can be a life saver for your teammates.

    Anyway IH build can work too.. play what you feel more comfortable with, but Muti is absolutely viable even on Crom.
    Last edited by Korando-AoC; 14th January 2014 at 14:01.
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  5. #35

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalston View Post
    You shouldn't pass out on Balance of nature - max it, it gives constant very nearly unlimited energy to your entire group. Most underrated BS feat ever (also helps casters SW-ing). Endurance of the bear on the other hand is very meh. Tiny impact and not worth feating at all over Balance of nature.

    Unless you use a muti spec - then just go for max dps it's a selfish spec anyway.

    And forget Ether Theft, it sucks really. Too long CD.
    balance of nature 2 points is ok.in premade it is helpfull for others in your group.
    endurance of bear 130 natural health = 130/4= 32.5 hp regen /sec
    if we say ; an average duel takes 30 sec it will give you 1k hp. it is fine.. muti spec is fine if u have prot gear.

    another spec which impress me is companion spirit spec (without taking bewilder, ih also some points of rampage) it is the most effective spec in bs vs bs fights i think

    btw Sbyvoj, game is not smooth like before anymore m8..as korando says ; playing at 200ms is awful also there r lag spikes so you see others teleporting most of time. i recommend u not to come back

  6. #36

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    I can't understand why people mostly consider muti spec (so with bewilder I assume) as a selfish spec and consider ih-spec as less selfish. The bubble is only for yourself, the miss chance you put on target with bewilder (in good situations even on multiple targets)can help your team, it's a supportive combo (in my opinion).
    Bendowill (Ranger) / Liangxiao (BS)
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  7. #37

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalston View Post
    You shouldn't pass out on Balance of nature - max it, it gives constant very nearly unlimited energy to your entire group. Most underrated BS feat ever (also helps casters SW-ing). Endurance of the bear on the other hand is very meh. Tiny impact and not worth feating at all over Balance of nature.

    Unless you use a muti spec - then just go for max dps it's a selfish spec anyway.

    And forget Ether Theft, it sucks really. Too long CD.
    whats wrong with Ether Theft's Cooldown? i wouldnt say, 25 seconds are too long. actually its a pretty decent combo vs certain enemies like other BS's, DTs or Pom/Toses -well, you have to combine it with Winter's Vision, but if you do you can pretty much outdrain a DT, even its stamina -> noone expects to be ooS these days

    in addition it has some great values in restoring your own mana, and even your Team's (though its range seems to be quite limited). ~1300 Mana are often the difference between casting another bloodflow and activating a manifestation instead of beeing totally naked after eating one of these nasty ranger traps or when fighting necros.

    i even consider it for my standard pve spec, since its mana benefit for the group is way better than expected -> dt's, poms or the unlucky caster who doesnt have a tos in his group will love it!

  8. #38

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bendowill View Post
    I can't understand why people mostly consider muti spec (so with bewilder I assume) as a selfish spec and consider ih-spec as less selfish. The bubble is only for yourself, the miss chance you put on target with bewilder (in good situations even on multiple targets)can help your team, it's a supportive combo (in my opinion).
    With bubble spec you can be in the front line longer and assist your team much better. Not saying that Bewilder is bad, it's just pretty different and not as simple as using a bubble.

    In premades the difference is very noticeable : in muti spec you simply get crushed and don't kill nor help your team much in the end.*

    *not every premade is the same but BS is a melee class with no speedbuff and no heavy armour so you generally sit in the front line taking a lot of damage.
    Last edited by kalston; 14th January 2014 at 17:56.
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  9. #39

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    This is how I see it! im NOT a pro pvper but have a lot of experience

    Pugs = meh use what u want IH or muti spec but if you want kills on the board muti spec for sure!

    Premade = Muti with stone hide OR IH with stone hide both are good but IMO muti/stonehide little better
    When you fight 6 players with T4 DPS the BS is dead after KB (and you cant bubble on the ground)

    Good premade will allways KB and 2 or 3 focus KB target = BS dead
    This will happen with IH spec or muti spec!!

    Both specs with stone hide and -15s of charge must have imo

    http://goo.gl/uleJXC premade IH (Endurance of the bear + Claws of life small HP regen but it all adds up)

    http://goo.gl/3n0pnF premade muti (yep no sun full winter)

    I run the same specs in pugs to

  10. #40

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    ^the one big problem with iron hide is, that its effectively not even a 6 seconds bubble but rather a 3-4 seconds bubble. hence every damage that has been initiated before you have cast the bubble will still beat thru it (like combofinishers of melees or finisher-casts of rangers) it often just has limitited value apart from retreating

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