Cash shop account wide Bags unlock ala TSW for aoc!

[-tomhet-]

The functionality is being expanded in the store to include more items over time, as it seems to be working.

There is, however, a raging debate about whether or not to do it for bags as they are one of the best selling items. I'll keep you posted

what you should consider is giving for free or at low cost triple inventory space and add more vanity related items for sale.
and or adding tradeskill inventory space for free and in item shop.

reasoning:
people wont buy more space because even if they buy it, it wont allow to maintain the amount of vanity items, tradeskill items, power items players want to gather and hold.
personaly and trust me its not just me, people create guilds on alts just for the extra free inventory space.
allowing players to have triple space would in long term possibly be more profitable for funcom if and only if you increase at same time offer in item shop of affordable amenities of all kinds.
just from old world armors if sold as vanity in item shop either in bundles or piece by piece or separated by set; i know loads of people who would buy those sets for vanity because first off some of them look realy awesome with great detail and also because if your not a soldier some of those sets cant be used at all.

increasing for free and in item shop bigger inventory expansion items while increasing offer of bind on equip items with account wide option could be very profitable for funcom and interesting for players to spend money on.

as well as adjusting ridiculous prices on some items like the refeat related items, camels and others.
having some new items like equivalent to guild npc merchant, and adding trainer npc spawner without requiring rez pad would be win if at low affordable price with a use once type of item.

give us the conditions to spend more money and we will, if you even add commitment that, that money will be spent developing aoc instead of other fc games people will spent even more just to develop hyboria.

[Kurt2013]

Let's assume they are really selling well on individual basis and on your already high prices.

I can only speak for me, but i will NEVER buy a charbound bag or bank space addition for the prices now. All my bags have been through special offers combined with a yearly subscription. So far i don't need the space to keep playing, but i would need the space to actively trade or store vanity stuff (i might buy from the shop as well) or get while playing with others. The chars who really need it would be tanks, but for charbound items, i consider the pricing too high.

This might be different with an accountwide offer. For the bank coffers i might instantly expand as soon as i have money to loose, bags might take longer, since even for accountwide it is expensive. But the factor of a onetime investment and then having a lot less space problems is a strong one and might just convince me to buy it, as soon as i have either points (through a special offer maybe) or loose money. I still believe this is a point you should seriously consider to expand for free, especially basic, quest and resource inventory.

Basically, i doubt anyone with more than 8 chars is buying charbound items more than once or twice (like for tanks). For all others it is a one time investment (or gain for you). I doubt i am alone with the "i will not buy expensive stuff charbound" attitude, so with that option you might reach a crowd, from where you would receive NO money otherwise.

In addition i would even go as far (again assuming the charbound bags are already selling well), that you would get more out of it, when you lower the prices...same with the single use charbound stuff now. Not too cheap, so not going into concurrency to the accountbound option, but also cheap enough, that it is a real alternative to the accountwide option.

This would go well with noites suggestion of free space and more vanity gear (lots of nice gear already designed and used by npcs or hard to reach ways, just redye or short edit them and you are ready to sell).

[Argantes]

The functionality is being expanded in the store to include more items over time, as it seems to be working.

There is, however, a raging debate about whether or not to do it for bags as they are one of the best selling items. I'll keep you posted

Well, a lot of people (including myself) is not gonna spend most of their monthly wage to buy some virtual bags for their toons, so for now you´ve got one big 0 € from me there.

Also having the inventory bag as the pinnacle of your item shop is just plain wrong, it should be relativelly cheap so people can buy and store other items from item shop and get and store stuff you release in-game (be it premium sub content, I don´t care). Available inventory space should be the way, not the goal.

Aaaand.. someone should finally take a look at the other items in the item store as well, since the pricing is sometimes pretty ridiculous, tbh. With appropriate pricing based on microtransactions, I guess you would get much more from the item store than you get now. But hey, I´m not the marketing guy here.

also linking my older post regarding this matter, your marketing guys should really have a look at it
http://forums.ageofconan.com/showpos...1&postcount=15

[Kurt2013]

...With appropriate pricing based on microtransactions, I guess you would get much more from the item store than you get now. But hey, I´m not the marketing guy here.

also linking my older post regarding this stuff:
http://forums.ageofconan.com/showpos...1&postcount=15

Maybe you should be But then on the other hand...MMO shops are not the only topic where pricing is suboptimal.

[Daynan]

A solution that won't make people who already bought bags angry.

1. Double (or more) the size of all existing bags in the shop (including those already purchased) and slightly lower the prices.

2. Introduce new bags at the current sizes at less than half the price.

3. Price x 1.25 for account wide unlock.

4. Allow functionality for upgrading by deducting the price of the currently equipped bag. This way players can comfortably purchase the next level of bag space as their needs expand.

[xiulo88]

I have 5 chars with space problems. If your marketing guys think I'm going to spend 90€ in bags...It's time to fire them because they are crazy, retarded or so well paid that they think money grows in the trees.

[Karadok]

IMO the biggest design flaw regarding the inventory system is that you cannot expand the inventory step by step.

If you own a 72 slot bag and want to expand to 122 slots you effectively pay 25 bucks (or 22,50 if subbed) for 50 slots, because you lose your 72 slots from the first bag. That´s plain ridiculous.

Change the system so that you can expand the inventory with more than one bag (maybe up to 6 bags), lower the prices for the bags slightly and we´re golden.

[-tomhet-]

if subscribed player could obtain in veteran vendor double the size veteran bags then now i would be a happy custumer, because right now i wouldnt buy any bag from item shop because they are simply too expensive and even if i bought it it wouldnt solve my inventory issues, that being main reason i dont buy it along side high price of bag.

would be far better if i could pay 200 funcom points for extra 10 slots of inventory on 1 char and 400 fc points for account wide 10 extra slots on claim so even chars i might creat later would have it.
it should be obvious that if my inventory was unchained and have some huge numerical prime as limit i would buy more space reliably maybe every month either on a single character or acount wide extra space.

like i tried to point out if you provide more amenities for me to buy i will buy them but currently i wont cause my inventory space is too finite and some items are simply over priced.

if you think current character bound big bag is a good deal i tell you that your being obtuse, because me, custumer and so many others would buy more space expantion items if :

1. they are cheap enough like i said 200fc for 10 extra slots one char and 400fc points acount wide 10 inventory slots is what i find confort zone i would buy maybe on a monthly regular basis(if i continue playing ofc)

2.funcom provides more things i am interested in buying at afordable prices that invite me to buy them.

imagine you sell me at 50fc points an npc to spawn right where i am who can retrain my feats on the spot or a merchant to sell me potions-food-kithai 4h pots etc, i would buy this item on a very regular basis especialy if would be raid leading t3 i would have a few of those items on inventory so i could make some players refeat for louhi to mana drain for example.

imagine this cenario you guys every month put out available a new vanity item could simply be a new vanity set or single piece(belt head piece) it looks nice i buy it 400fc for you, i dont have enough space i buy on that char extra 10 slots 200 more fc points
total 600fc spent.
or i like set so much i will buy it acount wide and will need account wide extra slots 550fc+400fc so i spend 950fc points.

point is if prices are affordable and items appear in affordable prices often enough me custumer and not just me, will spend more money and will even on a more regular basis not just subscribe but buy fc points because ill have something to spend them on eventualy.

reguarding vanity gear i leave these links of old world armor i would buy for sure on single chars and some armors account wide(thx cynara).
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despite most of these armors being available ingame, the class armor type restrictions make it unavailable for most classes to use some of them so i would buy them for sure to have it on single chars and account wide as well some of them on a regular basis for sure; also the mere thought of having to grind dull boss vs spending some fc points to buy it should be self evident many would just buy these armors as vanity vs grinding them ingame.

also there are many incomplete armors ingame like:

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__...77px-Thief.jpg
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...female_BIG.jpg
http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/...psf4fafd65.jpg
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http://www.tentonhammer.com/image/view/30093/preview
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http://images.wikia.com/aoc/images/7..._Chainmail.jpg

you have all this amazing artwork and armors giving no profit!!!

i customer am only asking you give me double the space i have now because i have payed it already and at same time ask for more affordable and unlimited space to be sold in lesser amounts(10 slots at a time) both for trader inventory and normal inventory.
as well as ask you sell me all these armors at affordable prices aligned with current prices single char and account wide.
and maybe in a future you have willingness to develop player houses in hub cities make'em we'll buy them , i would love my own instanced house in conarch vilage even one of those simple cimmerian huts would do me fine.

more even:
http://images.wikia.com/aoc/de/images/a/aa/Keaira2.jpg
https://imageshack.com/a/img837/108/c4qo.jpg
https://imageshack.com/a/img689/2338/l54e.jpg
these sets and many others only exist in bits and pieces place them in item shop ill buy them ...

give us space and give us more products to fill that space

stands to point out some issues related to inventory space.

1.tradeskill inventory is too small and there is no way to expand it, this is something wich needs to be addressed especialy with crafting revamp coming

2.millestone quest items fill up quest inventory, it would be far better if the symbol items occupied normal inventory instead, but overall never made much sense why it even exists a quest inventory at all give there inst much interaction possible with these items.
would be something to consider more millestone type quests to colect items in normal inventory vs quest inventory to place them somewhere in world and when amount is reached quest is completed with some sililar rewards given to player as millestone quest.
this would mean more items filling inventory and more reasons to buy extra 10 slots .

[-tomhet-]

after a chat with a couple of friends who play aoc it popped this notion, that having account wide claimable items wouldnt promote aquiring more inventory space.
i think the oposite, it would promote aquiring more inventory space because of the nature of vanity tab system wich allows a deeper personalization of your looks, as an illustration i link a pic of my current setup for my dt
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/7133/s2sx.png

having more inventory space and multiple vanity items on infinite claim would allow me to have my own personalized setups of vanity gears stored aligned by my own taste presets in my inventory.

for example the popular outcast mage old necro t4 gear is mostly bought simply because of the chineese hat wich looks very cool, and that piece goes well with alot other vanity gears, having that outfit on infinite claim would allow me to have on my inventory my own diferent vanity set mix ups with bits and bobs from a whole range of diferent sets i colected ingame or from item shop.

just trying to point out this could be financialy viable choise for funcom as well as interesting for players to continuously buy account wide vanity sets and more inventory space to suport buying more vanity gear.

[Vaere]

There is, however, a raging debate about whether or not to do it for bags as they are one of the best selling items. I'll keep you posted

So the item that everyone actually wants on all toons, and would use is the item they wont give because they are trying to milk it toon by toon. Arnt bags the main reason people complained in the first place for account wide claim / buy?

I have bought 1 NUL bag, that's all I will ever buy in that category from the game store. There are a lot of people like myself that are in the same boat, they have bought 1 or 2, and that's all they will ever buy because it is ridiculously priced. Now, all those same people may be temped to pay for another IF it was claimable on all toons. This is something players have asked for for a long time.

Don't forget, although they now have the bag, it just means they now have that much more space to fill with other crap they may actually buy. At the very least they should open up the BANK space purchase to account wide.