what is overpowered in pvp?

[Erock25]

really cause i have not seen any brute conqs getting 50 kills in a mini game but carnage ones i have seen a few

I'll post a screen later if you want to see brute conq 50+ kills. Carnage is more OP at wracking up kills versus dismal competition, that is for sure.

[Osireis]

I'll post a screen later if you want to see brute conq 50+ kills. Carnage is more OP at wracking up kills versus dismal competition, that is for sure.

its all dismal competition there is no good pvpers in AOC.....just degrees of bad

[kalston]

Yeah carnie conqs can like, kill my BS in two combos, but on the other hand they are killable - same can't be said of brute conqs and they still dish out fantastic dps (+ retributive damage that ****s up some classes seriously) even in def stance.

[Mathieulombardi]

^ The most important area of the game in a common sport like hockey, soccer, football, basketball is scoring, and it's the same here. In most pvp and minigames, the biggest contribution to winning is scoring kills, and carnage is more efficient and generally better at it than brute in most minigames. Sure carny can be cc'd and killed, but it also can bouce kb around and have a 2 min cd on dodge bubble, and a self heal; So it's got tons of survivability. Unless the map is the most range favoured and the other team is stacked with aoe and cone cc filled range classes, carny still takes the cake. It was op before the revamp and just even more so now.

Last HV i played : 9 soldiers

hehe yeah that does happen quite often.
http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/s...psff08a343.png

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNqSIAQJ4_c

conq most op

This was obive a joke video, why y'all taking it so seriously lol.

Yeah we could move along. But now unknownsoldier even post in tl sin suggestion thread. The suggestion is not to remove lo,no. there he suggests to shorten the cc immunities from aod and lo.... You cant move along as long as such ppl suggest so much ********. If you dont react, funcom considers this as legitimate feedback. It is so annoying to see ppl just destroying a class without even really playing it.

Saw that a while back and just throught, "pathetic".

i do have a sin, and i dont have any problems fighting with it both pve or pvp

If you have that opinion then you haven't played the game thorough enough on it.

[kalston]

^ The most important area of the game in a common sport like hockey, soccer, football, basketball is scoring, and it's the same here. In most pvp and minigames, the biggest contribution to winning is scoring kills, and carnage is more efficient and generally better at it than brute in most minigames. Sure carny can be cc'd and killed, but it also can bouce kb around and have a 2 min cd on dodge bubble, and a self heal; So it's got tons of survivability. Unless the map is the most range favoured and the other team is stacked with aoe and cone cc filled range classes, carny still takes the cake. It was op before the revamp and just even more so now.

You're probably right about that, but I don't see a lot of carnie conqs on Fury atm, it's just lazy brute conqs all over the place (usually 2-3 of them minimum per mini, much more in JS) getting a few kills and rarely (if ever) dying. I do remember some amazing carnie conqs racking up kills back in the days, but that was actually BEFORE the revamp... And afaik they didn't exactly get nerfed

[Geldour]

pretty pointless video. what does a khitai geared guard have in frenzy stance? -15% mitigation and - 40% protection? you would have done way more dmg with battlefield commander btw.

brute conq is more op than carnage as well.

was a video of me 1 shotting a pvp 10 demo too but i liked the one on the guard more.

I think carnage conq is fine besides that 1 combo that hits jsut too hard ( hits even harder then whirlwind and it should not)

Brute conq however is just too op, it cant die pretty much yet still pumps out big damage ( and has a bigger hitbox obviously) its a bit silly.

anwyasy, conq is the most op all round character imo

[Mathieulombardi]

Still think it's guards.

[mrcorp]

really cause i have not seen any brute conqs getting 50 kills in a mini game but carnage ones i have seen a few

Id love to see a few screenshots of 50+ kills in a mini. I call ********. Most people sit after 3 deaths or drop.

[abbalinos]

Id love to see a few screenshots of 50+ kills in a mini. I call ********. Most people sit after 3 deaths or drop.

In my 2 years and half spent in minis, the highest number of kills i've seen was 51-1 in HV, and that was achieved by Aktai, a Sin on Crom.

Maybe those kills you are talking about have been scored by farming the res over and over.

[Chaman-bourru]

You're probably right about that, but I don't see a lot of carnie conqs on Fury atm, it's just lazy brute conqs all over the place (usually 2-3 of them minimum per mini, much more in JS) getting a few kills and rarely (if ever) dying. I do remember some amazing carnie conqs racking up kills back in the days, but that was actually BEFORE the revamp... And afaik they didn't exactly get nerfed

Yep, before revamp carnage conq was almost as strong as it was now. Hybride spec got duller (BoA ftw !) slight increase of dps and more annoying from my point of view having all disciplines and techniques apply debuffs. It was already not too hard to debuff targets but at least you had a little cooldown on it and had to chose your buffs accordingly.

But yeah... brute conq is better know. Bubbles, more CC, almost as much burst dps, mainly one step combos, 2h reach, retaliation damage so even if you miss combos. You get less kills usually but you hardly ever die if you don't want to. Not to mention the bubble is gold to pick up flags...