Necro Builds

[Silverram]

Like that is ever gonna happen

[Vutra]

I use pets, and have most my feats in NF tree... So I am NF-necro then.
About numbers... A few weeks ago I got ~50K burst dmg on my necro in MemoryCloud in T4. That was with 8 pets. Noite80 was one of my victims though

no m8, ur pve necro, thats why we are talking about diff things

[-tomhet-]

Like that is ever gonna happen

you can always start pvping :> and less killing charmed people in raids for pvp xp

[xiulo88]

Hi, thanks for this post i think i've learnt a lot about my necro.

Can you necro experts take a look of my build and tell me if I need something else to do T3 (Drain mana in Lohuie included)and HMs using reapres?

http://goo.gl/4AWwG

I would like to use the noite build http://goo.gl/zJkyJ but I've never seen necros in T3 with mutilators and I suppose there is a reason for it. Im a little worried about aggro.

Can I use parasit host in tothamon or there is not time to get enougth skulls?

[Texan615]

Hi, thanks for this post i think i've learnt a lot about my necro.

Can you necro experts take a look of my build and tell me if I need something else to do T3 (Drain mana in Lohuie included)and HMs using reapres?

http://goo.gl/4AWwG

I would like to use the noite build http://goo.gl/zJkyJ but I've never seen necros in T3 with mutilators and I suppose there is a reason for it. Im a little worried about aggro.

Can I use parasit host in tothamon or there is not time to get enougth skulls?

You only need 1 point in Mark of the Devourer, so you can move 3 of the points you spent there to something else. Other than that, your build looks fine.

[-tomhet-]

Hi, thanks for this post i think i've learnt a lot about my necro.

Can you necro experts take a look of my build and tell me if I need something else to do T3 (Drain mana in Lohuie included)and HMs using reapres?

http://goo.gl/4AWwG

I would like to use the noite build http://goo.gl/zJkyJ but I've never seen necros in T3 with mutilators and I suppose there is a reason for it. Im a little worried about aggro.

Can I use parasit host in tothamon or there is not time to get enougth skulls?

you should move those points in motd to unholy inspiration so your pets deal more dmg when you use blasphemous ruin or pestilential blast, motd with 1 point is enough for pve with 5 points in it mostly its the heal that gets bigger.

you should get general of the dead its only 1 extra point and he does deal good damage while he lasts
reapers are a good option for pvp but in pve they are bad choise.
i found optimal usage of mage pets to be 2 arcanists for the extra base spell damage buff and a blood arcanist, you can use set's cold hatred buff so your mage pets+general of the dead deal more damage if you crit, despite this buff being stupid with melee pets given it only gives 1 extra damage stack on mage pets works better and it even stacks to 8 on deathlord so i have often have him crit for around 1000.
another reason to take general is that general+frenzy turns your melee pet in a tanking for 20 secs, its necro version of dt's dreadshadow so its nice help in hm's to tank and add while you kill it or even to help tanks.

about toth amon fight; know that the adds take double magic damage while toth himself seems to have normal mitigation.
its why its easier to cc lock the adds instead of tanking them^^.
you will look prettier on parsers if you go with dts 8 stack and just nuke hard and fast.
but using melee pets 2blighted+6corruptor/mutilarors will kill boss faster even if you dont make it to nº1 on parser wich is counting all damage adds included, you will most likely be nº1 on single target toth amon only parser.
personaly i find using 8stack dts makes me outdps everyone especialy last 2 boss fights in t3.
and yeah on first phase and last phase you can increase single target dps if you choose the buff to gain more skulls.
another reason why i use dts8 stack in toth amon fight is last phase.
those snakes can disable a tank and the more burst aoe you can do the more you will help tanks stay alive by doing as much aoe as you can to nuke down those snakes while nuking boss himself.

[ishoan]

actually using http://goo.gl/so1Jq
but i guess it's caster pet oriented since cabal feat boost up archmages...

i read somewhere that "2 blight ones + 6 mutilators" is way to go for a mix pvp/pve/levelling standard build...
but they are clearly meele's...

so trying to work on it
http://goo.gl/xdXuX
1 point left to slot DtS...o not

opinions?
keep in mind im ultra noob...

Ishoan

[Vutra]

reapers are bad 4 pve, use 2 arc and 1 BA...first moses than this 0_0
but i have to admit this is not worst idea i saw, hehe
m8, using pet build, this is the base...no matter 4 the pets ur using:
http://goo.gl/ROMWr with a shiet load of variation which u can try, if ur bored enough, hehe

[-tomhet-]

actually using http://goo.gl/so1Jq
but i guess it's caster pet oriented since cabal feat boost up archmages...

i read somewhere that "2 blight ones + 6 mutilators" is way to go for a mix pvp/pve/levelling standard build...
but they are clearly meele's...

so trying to work on it
http://goo.gl/xdXuX
1 point left to slot DtS...o not

opinions?
keep in mind im ultra noob...

Ishoan

you need to make up your mind and use diferent specs for diferent situations.

in pve using 2 blighted+6mutilators/corrutors(if and only if with grim corruptor feat) is best single target dps minion setup.

most bosses you want them dead fast so single target dps is what kills them faster.
something like this.
http://joharaoc.eu/feat?link=v5_1291...45c91443815182

althought in t4 i usualy have something like this
http://joharaoc.eu/feat?link=v5_1291...443814f8d15182
mostly because zodiac requires extra single target dps so i spec ancient soul+ravenous souls to optimize my parasitic soul minions deal best damage possible and lingering longer bettewen each of the 4 zodiac bosses.

spell rotation is same as it has been for years...

gangrenous stench
its a small aoe centered on you applying physical debuff and unholy damage proc wich is afected by sw and amount of magic7inteligence you have equiped

mark of the devourer
1 point is enough for pve, 5 points only increases self heal amount the damage increase is low with more points invested

flesh the worms
the infamous 40 secs dot wich should have been reduced in duration for years now
bear in mind if you spec infestation ftw can spead to adjacent targets with a new dot with same icon called infestion wich lasts 30 secs and has half the damage.

pestilencial blast
memorize its symbol so you can optimize your rotation to detonate it after it has lingered at least 15 secs, usualy i dont count it i just do like 3-4 icestrikes and chill to detonate.
also this procs increased damage on your pets if you have unholy inspiration feated.

icestrike
when in doubt spam icestrike you cant go wrong with it, keep an eye out for withered soul buff, you also get surrounded by skulls opening their jaws animation around you it means your next i.s. is instant cast

chill
it can be used to detonate pestilencial blast, the feat bursting bomb will increase this detonation efect.

blasphemous ruin
use it whenever its off cooldown.
also this procs increased damage on your pets if you have unholy inspiration feated.

those are the main spells to use in any given situation, you should try and bind them in easy to use positions because you will use them very often and you will perform better if you bind them instead of clicking with mouse on its icon every single one of them

life strike
its your personal big heal spell, it debuffs spiritual torment does a miniscule unholy damage hit, can proc decays of nature dot if you use that perk, is afected by sw buffs by large amounts so with death god sw buff you can get extra nice self big heal on self.

special features.

while in sw choose parasite host buff and cast ftw+blasphemous ruin+pestilencial blast+icestrike(if lucky will be double due to instant icestrike)
that will grant you 1 skull per each cast, i find that order to be optimal one to gain most skulls while buff is active, you can practice on strawman to get as many skulls as possible its the wasy to further nuke harder harder and harder in single target and its very important for optimized kills.

using frenzy+general of the dead with at least 1 melee minion up will turn your minion in a tank for around 20 secs, this only works on normal and epic bosses and all mobs, it wont work on raid bosses.

tome of epithur
while this 20 second buff is active each of your icestrikes will also stun and each tick of deathly blizzard will be an aoe stun(only use for deathly blizzard at moment is just that)

the waste of space spells.
leech life
parasitic soul swarm
gelid bones
deathly blizzard
they are all crap and a waste of time.

reguarding pvp
http://joharaoc.eu/feat?link=v5_1291...44381518114a7a
3reapers+2lifestealers
frenzy will cause stagger on oponents from frenzy pet

http://joharaoc.eu/feat?link=v5_1291...44381518114a79
2 blood arcanists for great self heals

in minigames i find that no pets and higher burst damage + purge(your best assassin survival tool)
http://joharaoc.eu/feat?link=v5_1296...4ba61443815182
or
http://joharaoc.eu/feat?link=v5_1296...45c914ba614439
or
http://joharaoc.eu/feat?link=v5_1296...43d8145c814438

final note.
on the pve side you will inevitably end up in bad pugs or playing with crap tanks wich cant tank shlt and cry its your fault your over dpsing.
i have great success surviving those situations with this build wich also provides optimized aoe dps and is overall fun to play with.
http://joharaoc.eu/feat?link=v5_1296...5182146f814c08
misdirection is great and will save you from nab tanks

[Derek-Drake]

Awesome wall of knowledge

This thread has helped me so damn much. I've been using slightly different alterations to your specs posted here and I've been having great success with parsing extremely well in raids.

May I ask why six corruptors and two blighted ones do more single target damage than using eight corruptors?

I don't doubt you, because I have tested it on the dummies and in raids, but I can't see anything that would make it do more damage except for the fact that BO's seem to attack much faster than other pets.

Edit: This is the spec that I use. I prefer corruptors to mutilators cause they seem to be able to reach the target better when 15 melee are standing around it. I always choose Unholy Inspiration over Flash Freeze.

http://aocfeats.com/feat/hox/12b1adb...c2641bdb41bf44