So when will the World Boss start again?
I actually like Lore #1. Well written.
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So when will the World Boss start again?
I actually like Lore #1. Well written.
I prefer version 1, although version 2 was very good. It's simply easier to "mess up" a first-person narrative than an encyclopedic entry, so I think even if this sample was great, there's a higher risk with first-person perspectives in the future. Also, gamers love encyclopedias. Why do you think there are so many wikis around for popular games/comic books/tv shows?
I prefer version 2!
Still no reason to return.
Yeah, sure, he mellowed as he got older and even might have written some poetry, but I don't see him writing books. And his story quotes are far far too disconnected to be able to use to create coherent lore categories.
There is a large amount of scholarly knowledge that we would want to include in the lore. If it more informational then that is less of a problem. For the second approach, giving it a voice, we would use characters from across the world such as scholars to give voice to the scholarly parts. If we limit ourselves to Conan it limits the system a lot. Plus the entries about Conan would be really awkward to write.
For the record, the lore system will always preface things with the REH quotes. So the actual lore entry would first have the piece from the Hyborian Age and then the text from the GD letter. In both cases. I just didn't bother to put that in the letter as it would have wasted space and been repeated.
Use both. Scholars write encyclopedias, adventurers spin tales.
nice seeing both GD and Mods participating! :)
If i could just add something..Saying less can be more may instantly distance me from some other group, so allow me to give two examples of why i find the second type of presentation so much better:
- you did the content, no skipping, no gogo. Some of the things you read/heard made absolutely no sense, others could have lead you astray. NPCs filtering events through their own beliefs, etc. And at some point, again because this is something you wanted (which is also good as it entails the gogogo people are not forced to read, see: ADHD), the story finally comes to make sense! You understand the relations between NPCs, certain pieces, etc etc, you feel rewarded because what might appear as a goofy scenario for someone not having paid attention, for you it is pretty much organic;
- having read what is there to read and more importantly, having looked where most don't bother, a plot has formed in your head connecting the various/disjointed pieces of information you have come across. At some point, an integral part of 'a' story is handed to you and you get to that moment where you can say "yeah, i knew it!" or "wouldn't have thought of that!...does that mean that...but why.."
If these things can happen, you get to care. Because to get to them, you participated. That is what makes the difference. Just like in TSW :)
I prefer the encyclopedia version.
For me too, the 2nd example of lore is much better. But it would have to be signed, so we know who exactly said it. And as the mod suggested, it could be scholarly if, for example, it was written by Astreas, or some other Hyborian scholar.
I would also LOVE to find all the great stuff written for the game in an ebook. Over the years, there has been some pretty good writing in AoC (like the backstory of Karutonia or the House of Crom), and it'd be a shame to lose all that when the game will be taken off-line (even if that won't happen for many years). Even quest dialog can sometimes be pure gold (like the Astrologer or the Gold Seller in the Noble District).
I would pay good money for a nice ebook like that!
Thanks for response. I meant that you could use a knowledgeable person as the source, allowing good lore detail and a more conversational style.
Think something like a top professor giving his opinion, which, because of his knowledge and experience, should at least be considered.
But, based on your response, i would say make it an encyclopedia entry. But this could turn out to be sterile compared to using characters (example of kalanthes as intro to aoc) to give good, useful and less carrot-stuck-up-bum encyclopedia entry.
I am advocating that the two styles be combined to give detail yet remain in keeping with game-feel of creative fantasy writing.
Eg not using a drunken sailor in tarantia as source, but rather using pallantides as a source to describe poitain.
The entries do not even need to quote a source. You can just use a character perspective as a guideline to give a good, detailed and engaging tone to the entry.